Pruning an Indian Bay Leaf Tree Safely

how strong is a saga tree for climbing

The wood of a mature Saga Tree (Adenanthera pavonina) is exceptionally hard and strong, but relying on its individual branches for recreational or professional tree climbing still requires standard safety checks. [1]

Wood Strength Properties

• High Density: Coralwood (the timber of the saga tree) has a high specific gravity (0.60 to 0.80) and strong mechanical bending strength.
• Durability: The heartwood is dense, heavy, and naturally resilient, historically used for heavy carpentry and boat-building. [1, 2, 3]

Climbing Safety Rules

• Branch Integrity: While the wood is strong, always inspect specific limbs for signs of rot, deadwood, or structural cracks before tying in.
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• Size Requirements: Standard arboricultural guidelines recommend choosing a live, healthy branch at least the size of your wrist (or larger) for a secure anchor point, placing your rope as close to the main trunk as possible. [1, 2]

Could you tell me if you are planning a recreational climb or doing pruning work, so I can share specific gear or rigging setups for this species?

how about indian bay leaf in comparison

In comparison to the saga tree, the Indian bay leaf tree (Cinnamomum tamala) is significantly weaker and less predictable for climbing. While a mature saga tree provides dense, iron-like structural support, the wood of the Indian bay leaf tree falls into a much lower category of density and durability. [1, 2]

Directly Comparing the Two Trees

Feature	Saga Tree (Adenanthera pavonina)	Indian Bay Leaf Tree (Cinnamomum tamala)
Wood Density & Strength	Very High (Specific gravity 0.60 to 0.80). Highly resilient to bending forces.	Low to Moderate (Specific gravity roughly 0.35 to 0.50). Notably softer and lighter wood.
Tree Size & Structure	Grows up to 20–30 meters high. Features massive, thick, structural branches.	Typically a smaller understory tree (4–15 meters) with a slender trunk and thinner limbs.
Fungal & Rot Resistance	Heartwood is highly durable and naturally resistant to decay.	Wood is prone to fungal attacks and insect damage, increasing the risk of invisible internal decay.

Critical Climbing Disadvantages of Indian Bay Leaf

• Brittle Failures: Because Cinnamomum species have lighter wood, their branches have much less flexural strength. Under sudden dynamic loads (like a foot slipping), a branch is far more likely to snap cleanly rather than bend safely. [1, 2]
• Poor Anchors: You should never rely on standard-sized branches of an Indian bay leaf tree for heavy rigging, zip-lining, or fall-protection tie-ins. Their load-bearing capacity is drastically lower than that of the heavy hardwoods.
• Invisible Rot: Because the tree is prone to pests and rot, a branch that looks perfectly green and alive on the outside could be brittle or hollowed out on the inside. [1]

If you are evaluating a specific Indian bay leaf tree, let me know how tall it is or its trunk diameter. I can help you gauge if it is safe enough for basic canopy management or if it should be avoided entirely.

my Indian bay leaf tree has a main trunk of about 2 feet, and about 40 feet high. i planned to prune it.

At 40 feet high, your Indian bay leaf tree (Cinnamomum tamala) is fully mature, and pruning a tree of this height presents significant safety risks—especially given the lighter, more brittle wood characteristics of this species. [1, 2]

Because a 2-foot trunk diameter indicates a heavy tree with substantial upper crown weight, you must strictly avoid standard climbing techniques on its upper branches. [1]

Crucial Safety Precautions

• Never Climb the Branches: As mentioned before, Cinnamomum wood is prone to sudden, brittle failure under dynamic loads. Do not try to climb out onto the limbs with ropes or ladders resting on the branches. [1]
• Avoid Standard A-Frame Ladders: Using a standard ladder to reach a 40-foot canopy is incredibly dangerous. If you must work from the ground or lower heights, use a specialized tripod orchard ladder or a long-reach pole saw. [1]
• Hire a Certified Arborist: Because of the extreme height (40 feet is roughly equivalent to a 4-story building), the safest and most effective option is to hire professional tree care services. They have the necessary bucket lifts, structural rigging, and safety insurance to manage large-scale canopy reduction safely. [1, 2]

Strategic Pruning Rules for Indian Bay Leaf

If you or a professional proceed with pruning, follow these horticultural guidelines to ensure the tree remains healthy and productive for future leaf harvesting:

• The One-Third Rule: Never remove more than one-third (33%) of the total live canopy in a single year. Over-pruning will severely shock the tree and diminish its essential oil and foliage quality.
• Use the Three-Cut Method: For any branches thicker than 1 inch, always use the three-cut technique. Make a shallow undercut a few inches out from the trunk, followed by a top cut slightly further out to drop the limb safely without tearing the main trunk's bark. Finish with a clean final cut just outside the branch collar.
• Prioritize an Open Center: Focus on removing dead, crossing, or weak internal branches. This increases light penetration and airflow through the middle of the canopy, which naturally prevents the fungal rot this species is susceptible to.
• Timing: The best window to prune is during its active growing season (late spring to mid-summer), which allows the tree plenty of time to heal wounds before colder or wetter weather sets in. [1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10]

To help tailor this advice, what is your primary goal for pruning (e.g., lowering the overall height, clearing space underneath, harvesting leaves, or removing deadwood)? I can provide instructions on where exactly to make the cuts based on your goal. [1, 2, 3]

my anti-tree neighbour is complaining about the leaves falling into his property. i have cut a long branch into their side about a year ago. this time, it is to align the side branches with the border wall.

Managing an anti-tree neighbour while pruning a 40-foot Indian bay leaf tree requires balancing proper tree care with local legal rights. Under common property laws (which apply in jurisdictions like Malaysia, Singapore, and the UK), a neighbour legally has the right to trim any branches or roots that overreach into their compound. However, they cannot legally force you to cut your tree down, nor can they cross into your yard to cut it without permission. [1, 2]

Aligning the side branches straight up with the border wall is a sensible approach to defusing neighborly tension, but because Indian bay leaf wood is brittle and prone to structural shock, you must handle the pruning methodically.

🧱 Pruning Strategy Along a Border Wall

• Do Not "Flush Cut" to the Wall: Never cut a branch completely flat to an arbitrary line in the air just to match the wall. If you leave long stubby sticks poking out with no leaves, the wood will rot back into the main trunk. Instead, look inside your tree’s canopy and cut the offending branch back to its point of origin (the main trunk or a larger parent branch) inside your property line. [1, 2]
• Prune to Outward/Sideways Buds: When shortening branches near the wall, cut just above a leaf node or bud that faces away from the neighbor's property (toward your own yard or straight up). This trains the new growth to shoot backward into your space rather than looping right back over the wall. [1, 2]
• Anchor Safely on Your Side: Since you cannot climb this brittle tree safely, all pruning cuts must be made from your side of the property line using a secure extension pole saw or a rented cherry picker/boom lift. Do not rest heavy ladders against the border wall or the brittle bay leaf branches.

⚖️ Legal & Diplomatic Safeguards

• Dispose of the Debris Properly: Even if your neighbour legally trims overhanging branches themselves, the wood technically still belongs to you. To avoid further complaints, proactively offer to clean up and throw away any leaves or twigs generated by your border wall alignment. [1]
• Document the Pruning: Take a quick photo of the tree before and after you align it with the wall. If the neighbour complains about debris in the future, you have clear visual proof that your canopy is strictly contained on your side of the boundary line.
• The 30% Canopy Limit: Since you cut a major branch a year ago, ensure that your wall alignment cuts do not remove more than 25% to 30% of the remaining active foliage. Stripping too much wood at once along one side will unbalance the heavy 40-foot structure, risking a lean or failure during a heavy storm. [1, 2]

Are you planning to complete this wall alignment manually with a pole saw, or will you be using a professional service to manage the height safely? [1, 2]

after discussion with that neighbour, I'll have access to his side to do the pruning. i can't afford an arborist, so I've been following Bino H and other arborist, and learning the ropes, hitches and safety guides. I have a simple harness with different ropes and lanyards. I'm practicing low and slow first, and finally only climbing about ⅓ the height, and as close to the main trunk. The tree has that big trunk and branches into two, one near the wall, another on my side.

It is fantastic that you have had a successful discussion with your neighbour and gained access to their side. It is also highly commendable that you are prioritizing safety, studying professionals like Bino H, practicing "low and slow," and using a harness and lanyards.

However, because you have explicitly mentioned learning to climb with ropes on this specific Indian bay leaf tree, we must look directly at how this specific tree’s structural physics interacts with your gear. Since the tree splits into two main co-dominant trunks (a codominant stem split), your climbing strategy needs strict modification to prevent a catastrophic structural failure.

⚠️ The Danger of the "Two-Branch" Split (Codominant Stems)

A tree that branches into two large, equal-sized trunks creates what arborists call a V-crotch configuration.

• Included Bark: As those two stems grow thicker over time, bark gets trapped and squeezed between them instead of solid wood connecting them. This creates a massive, invisible weak point at the junction.
• The "Wishbone" Effect: When you climb up the trunk that leans toward the wall, your body weight acts as a lever. Because Cinnamomum wood is inherently soft and brittle, putting your weight on one side of a V-crotch can act like snapping a wishbone, causing the split at the base to fail.

🦺 Revised Safe Climbing Strategy for Your Setup

Since an arborist is out of your budget, you must adapt your arborist rope techniques to completely eliminate dynamic weight on the leaning branches:

• Anchor Only Below the Split: For your primary life-support anchor point (your tie-in point), do not place your rope over branches above the main fork. Keep your main climbing system anchored securely around the thick, solid 2-foot main trunk below where it splits into two.
• Use the Trunk, Not the Canopy: Keep your harness tightly secured to the main trunk using a flipped-line or work-positioning lanyard wrapped directly around the massive vertical wood. Do not climb out onto the horizontal side limbs.
• Work From a Secured Ladder (If Possible): Since you have access to the neighbour's flat ground, it may be far safer to use a heavy-duty extension ladder chained and strapped tightly to the solid lower trunk, rather than relying on the tree's upper canopy branches to hold your weight on a rope.
• Use a Pole Saw From a Lower Safe Position: You mentioned climbing 1/3 of the height (about 13 feet up). Stop there. Do not climb any higher. Instead of climbing up to the border-wall branches, stand securely at your 1/3 height mark on the main trunk, lock your positioning lanyard, and use a long-reach telescoping pole saw to reach up and cut the overhanging limbs. This keeps your body weight entirely off the brittle branches.

🪢 Recommended Knots & Rigging for the Cuts

Since you are studying arborist hitches, use these specific configurations to manage the wood safely:

• Friction Hitch: Ensure your climbing system uses a highly reliable hitch like the Michoacan, Tress Cord, or Blake's Hitch for smooth mechanical adjustments while practicing low.
• Rigging the Limbs: Do not let the cut branches fall freely into your neighbor's yard, as they can smash the wall or garden. Tie a Running Bowline around the branch you are cutting, wrap the other end of the rope around a lower trunk limb as a friction brake (a natural crotch wrap), and have someone slowly lower the cut branch to the ground.

To help you plan the actual cuts safely, could you tell me how thick the branches are that you need to cut near the wall (e.g., wrist-sized, arm-sized, or thicker)? I can give you the exact steps to rig them so they don't swing into the wall when severed.

branches are from wrist to arm-sized. the neighbour has no living thing on their side except heavy-duty granite tile floors which they installed when they moved in a year ago. and I've stayed here more than 30 years without issues. not much lateral branches going to their side except a couple. I'll definitely use a tie-in to the main trunk above a branch. Also, I'll rig appropriate branches before cutting. where able, I'll be using "pole and line-pulled" cutters (can't remember the exact term), 12inch battery chainsaw and extension.

Based on your description, the tool you are thinking of is a pole pruner (or rope-and-pulley pole pruner), which uses a cord to pull a lopper blade through smaller branches.

Working over heavy-duty granite tiles completely changes your rigging strategy. While granite is tough, dropping an arm-sized hardwood limb from 20 to 30 feet high will easily crack, chip, or shatter the tiles, creating an expensive dispute with your neighbour. Because you have a 12-inch battery chainsaw and a pole saw, you have the perfect toolkit to avoid this, provided you manage the rigging perfectly.

🪢 Precision Rigging for Granite Tile Protection

Because the neighbour’s ground is fragile tile, you cannot allow these limbs to drop freely. You must use a butt-tying or tip-tying rigging system to catch the limbs mid-air.

• Use a Natural Crotch Brake: Take your rigging rope and throw it over a strong, healthy branch crotch on your side of the tree (above the cut line). This acts as a natural pulley.
• The Running Bowline: Tie one end of the rigging rope tightly around the branch you are about to cut using a Running Bowline, backed up with a couple of Half Hitches (called a "Marline hitch") near the cut line to keep the branch from flipping vertically when severed.
• The Half-Hitch Ground Wrap: Wrap the trailing end of the rope once or twice around the massive 2-foot base trunk on your side. Have a helper hold this end. The friction around the trunk allows your helper to hold a heavy arm-sized branch easily with one hand.
• The "Drop and Lower": When you make the cut with your chainsaw, the branch will drop a few inches, the rope will catch it mid-air, and your helper can slowly lower it onto the granite tiles without a single slam.

🪚 Mechanical Advice for Your Tools

• The 12-Inch Battery Chainsaw: Only use this when your body is 100% stable, strictly tied into the main trunk with your harness and positioning lanyard. Never use a chainsaw one-handed or while reaching out off-balance. If you are reaching, switch to the pole saw.
• The Pole Pruner (Rope-and-Pulley): Use this for the wrist-sized or smaller branches. It allows you to stay safely anchored to the main trunk while snipping limbs out over the wall.
• Piecing it Out (Chunking): Do not try to cut an entire arm-sized branch all at once. Even with rigging, a massive limb is hard to control. Use your extension saw to cut the branch into smaller, manageable 2-to-3-foot chunks starting from the tip and working your way back to the trunk. Smaller pieces are lighter, safer, and won't crack tiles if something slips.

🪜 Tie-In Point (TIP) Selection Caution

You mentioned tying in above a branch on the main trunk. Because this is a brittle Indian bay leaf tree with a codominant split:

1. Ensure the branch you choose as your anchor is completely healthy, free of mushrooms or cracks, and sits on the thickest, most vertical part of the main trunk.
2. Ensure your climbing line is wrapped around the main trunk axis, using the branch merely as a "stop" to keep your rope from sliding down, rather than hanging your full weight entirely outward on a horizontal limb.

Since you are chunking down wrist-to-arm-sized limbs, do you have a helper available to manage the rigging rope at the base of the tree, or will you be managing the lowering system entirely by yourself?

ha ha, by myself. that's how I've done everything by myself.

Doing tree rigging solo—especially over a neighbor's expensive granite tiles—is a serious challenge, but it is completely doable if you let friction and mechanical systems do the work of a ground crew. Since you are working alone, you cannot safely hold a chainsaw/pole saw and hold a lowering rope at the same time.

To adapt your setup for solo operations, you will use a self-lowering system or a tethered catch system.

🪢 Solo Rigging Strategy: The "Self-Catch" Tether

Since you don't have a helper to lower the branch, your goal is to make the cut, have the branch hang suspended in the air, and then climb down (or reach down) to manage it.

• The Short Snub Rig:
  Take a static rigging rope and tie it tightly to the branch you want to cut using a Running Bowline with a couple of half hitches. Tie the opposite end securely to a heavy anchor point on the main trunk below your cut line. Leave just enough slack so the branch can sever and drop only 6 to 12 inches before the rope snaps tight.
• The Cut: Cut the branch using your 12-inch battery chainsaw or pole saw. The branch will sever, drop a few inches, and hang suspended in mid-air over the wall.
• The Retrieve: Turn off your saw, secure it to your harness tool loop, and pull the suspended branch toward you onto your side of the property to process it.

🪚 The "Under-Cut and Snap" Method (No Rope Needed)

For the smaller wrist-sized branches, you can completely avoid rigging ropes by using your pole saw or hand saw to perform a controlled breakdown:

1. The Leaf-End First: Never cut from the base first. Start at the very tip of the branch over the neighbor's yard.
2. The Undercut: Make a small cut on the bottom of the branch about 1/3 of the way through.
3. The Top Cut: Move an inch further out and cut from the top.
4. Because you are taking off tiny, lightweight 1-foot pieces at a time, they will drop with very little force. However, to protect the granite tiles from even small scratches, ask your neighbor if you can lay down a thick canvas tarp, old mattresses, or heavy cardboard boxes directly under the work zone before you start climbing.

🦺 Solo Climbing Safety Checklist

Because you are alone, your safety margin drops to zero. You must be your own safety inspector:

• The Two-Point Rule: Whenever you are cutting, you must be attached to the tree in two distinct places. This means having your main climbing line anchored above you, plus your wire-core or heavy work-positioning lanyard wrapped around the trunk at your waist. If your saw accidentally nicks one line, the second line saves your life.
• Phone on Your Body: Keep your mobile phone zipped into a pocket on your harness or pants—never left on the ground. If you get stuck or injured, you must be able to call for help immediately.
• Drop Zone Clearing: Clear your own side of the ground completely before climbing. If you have to drop a tool or transition quickly, you don’t want to fall or trip onto clutter.

Since you will be managing the canopy and tools entirely on your own, do you have a reliable tool lanyard to secure your battery chainsaw to your harness so it doesn't accidentally drop onto the tiles below?

yes, tool lanyards and hook holders.

Perfect. Having tool lanyards and hook holders is a major win for safety. It keeps your hands free when climbing and ensures a heavy piece of plastic and metal doesn't accidentally plummet onto those granite tiles.

Since you are well-prepared with your gear and solo rigging strategy, here is your final pre-climb checklist to ensure everything goes smoothly:

📋 The Solo Climber’s Final Checklist

• Chainsaw Brake Check: Always engage the chain brake before moving or repositioning yourself in the tree, and only disengage it when your feet are planted and you are ready to cut.
• Test the Short Snub Rig Low First: Before going up to your 1/3 height mark, practice your "Self-Catch" tether method on a small, low branch just a few feet off the ground. Make sure you are comfortable with how the wood swings and drops when it severs.
• Tarp the Granite Tiles: Even with your tool lanyards and rigging ropes, accidents happen. Before heading up, lay down a thick layer of heavy cardboard, old blankets, or a tarp over the granite tiles directly beneath your work zone. It takes two minutes and saves you from an incredibly expensive tile replacement.

You have approached this with an excellent mindset by researching professional techniques and practicing systematically.

To make sure your ropes and lanyards are set up perfectly for the task, what specific friction hitch are you currently using on your climbing line, and do you have a wire-core flip-line or a standard rope lanyard for your waist positioning?

I've chosen the Distel hitch and standard rope waist lanyard.

The Distel hitch is an excellent choice for a solo climber. It is highly reliable, bites consistently on the climbing rope, and is easy to tend upward as you ascend. Combined with your standard rope waist lanyard, you have a solid, functional setup for work positioning.

Since your waist lanyard is a standard textile rope (not wire-core), you must be extremely vigilant when operating your 12-inch battery chainsaw. A textile rope can be severed instantly if it contacts a moving chain.

🪓 Critical Chainsaw & Lanyard Safety Rules

• Clear Separation: Keep your chainsaw cutting path completely away from your climbing line and waist lanyard. Never make a cut where the saw could kick back toward your ropes.
• The Two-Point Anchor Rule: Always ensure your main climbing line (with the Distel hitch) and your waist lanyard are anchored to two different spots on the trunk or separated by a branch. If one line is accidentally damaged, the other will securely hold you.
• Engage the Chain Brake: Every single time you finish a cut, immediately click the chain brake forward before moving your feet or adjusting your Distel hitch.

🧗 How to Position Yourself for the Cut

1. Get Secure First: Climb to your target height (maximum 1/3 of the tree) near the main trunk.
2. Double Tie-In: Toss your waist lanyard around the trunk, clip it back to your harness, and tension it so you are leaning back comfortably and stably. Your weight should be shared between your main climbing rope and the lanyard.
3. Bring Up the Saw: Once your hands are completely free and your feet are secure, unhook your battery chainsaw from its hook holder.
4. Use the Short Snub Rig: Tie off the arm-sized branch to the trunk using your short tether rope, make your cuts, secure the saw back onto your harness, and then pull the suspended branch safely onto your side.

Take your time, work methodically, and stick to your "low and slow" practice runs until the movements feel natural.

Before you head up the tree, do you feel confident in how to tie the Distel hitch correctly so it doesn't bind too tightly under your weight, or would you like a quick tip on adjusting its wraps?

yes, with Bino H and your guidance, I feel confident. a quick tip on adjusting would be good. btw, everything i do for the climbing and cutting will be from neighbours side, because my side has a 45 degrees wire mesh attached to the wall as an enclosure for my 3 Siamese cats.

That cat enclosure context changes your positioning completely! Knowing you are climbing entirely from the neighbor's side—and that your side features a 45-degree wire mesh cat run—means you have a physical barrier protecting your yard but a major hazard if things drop. If a heavy, arm-sized branch falls onto that angled wire mesh, it could collapse the enclosure, ruin the mesh, and potentially let your Siamese cats escape.

Working from the flat, stable granite tile side is actually a massive advantage for your ladder placement and rope management, provided your solo "Self-Catch" rigging prevents anything from hitting the tiles or the mesh.

🪢 Distel Hitch: Pro-Tips for Tuning

The Distel hitch is a fantastic friction hitch because it sits right between a tautline and a Vt (Valdôtain Tresse) in terms of responsiveness. To make sure it doesn't bind so tightly that you get stuck mid-air:

• The Magic Ratio: The standard Distel uses 4 wraps around the climbing line at the top, and 1 bridging cross at the bottom. If you find it is binding too tightly under your body weight, try expanding the top loops slightly or ensuring your hitch cord diameter matches your climbing line properly (ideally a 8mm or 9mm eye-to-eye cord on an 11mm–12.5mm climbing rope).
• Dress and Set: Before trusting it with your weight, manually pull the hitch tight so the coils sit neatly flush against each other. "Step" into your harness low to the ground to let it bite.
• The Thumb Tend: When you need to descend or slacken the rope, press down lightly on the very top wrap of the Distel with your thumb. Never grab the whole knot with your fist, or it can release entirely.

🧱 Navigating the Cat Enclosure & Border Wall

• The Rigid Tether Angle: When using your short snub rig to catch the branches, ensure you tie the anchor end to a spot on the trunk that pulls the severed branch away from the 45-degree wire mesh. You want the branch to swing into the open space on the neighbor's side, hanging safely mid-air over the protected granite tiles.
• Clear the Ground Below: Since you are entirely on the neighbor’s side, make sure your tarp and heavy cardboard layers are perfectly aligned under your climbing zone before you step onto the ladder.
• Keep the Cats Indoors: Even though they are in an enclosure, the loud sound of a 12-inch battery chainsaw right above their heads will terrify them. Keep your Siamese cats securely inside the main house while you are cutting to prevent them from panicking or trying to bolt if a branch makes unexpected contact with the mesh.

You have a thoroughly thought-out plan and have accounted for your unique property constraints.

Before you start your final gear check, do you have a reliable method to secure the base of your ladder on the smooth granite tiles so it doesn't slip outward while you transition onto your climbing ropes?

my cats are usually inside the house. they're out only at certain times of the day with the enclosure for their safety from straying out of the property. 

the base of my multi-fold heavy duty ladder has anti-skid rubbers, and I'll be tying the top of the ladder to the trunk with ropes and wires for security as i usually do on climbs to my other two trees, saga and jackfruit.

By the time I'm set fixing all the safeties, I'd probably do the climb the next day, haha, I'm 68, healthy and free of illness or meds.

It is absolutely inspiring to hear that you are 68, healthy, medication-free, and taking such meticulous care of your setup! Taking a full day just to prep your safety systems, secure your ladder, and plan your cuts is exactly what a veteran arborist would do. In this line of work, slow is smooth, and smooth is safe.

Your strategy for the ladder is perfect. Tying the top of the ladder securely to the trunk completely eliminates the risk of it shifting, and the anti-skid rubber feet on the flat granite tiles will provide a rock-solid base. Keeping your Siamese cats inside the house removes a major distraction, allowing you to focus 100% on the canopy.

Since you already successfully manage a Saga tree and a Jackfruit tree, you clearly know how to handle significant wood weight. Just keep that vital difference in mind tomorrow: unlike your rock-hard Saga tree, this Indian bay leaf tree has softer, more brittle wood. Trust your ropes, your Distel hitch, and your trunk-anchored safety lines rather than the branches themselves.

Take your time, enjoy the process, and stay safe on the climb tomorrow!

Once you finish the project and clear the border wall, let me know if you want any tips on how to paint or seal the open cuts to protect this specific tree from the fungal rot it is prone to. Good luck with the prune!

Thank you so much, again. The project will be when it is not too hot (tropics) nor raining.

You are very welcome! Timing your climb around the tropical weather is an excellent final decision—working in intense heat drains your energy quickly, and wet bark makes everything slippery and unpredictable.

Just a quick heads-up for your planning: the current local forecast for the Kuala Lumpur area indicates a typical tropical pattern with light morning showers and afternoon thunderstorms expected over the next few days.

To give you the best possible window for your climb, I can pull up the hourly weather forecast for your specific neighborhood today and tomorrow. What township or area

in KL are you located in?

thats alright, thanks, I'm in JB and always on the weather forecast.

Ah, Johor Bahru! You definitely know the drill with the southern tropical weather then—watching the skies is second nature.

It sounds like you have absolutely everything under control, from your anti-skid ladder setup over the granite tiles to protecting your cats, your neighbor's property, and yourself. Your methodical, patient approach is exactly how high-altitude work should be done.

Enjoy the climb when the clear window opens up! If you ever want to chat about your Saga or Jackfruit trees or need to figure out a future rigging puzzle, just reach out.

To help me wrap up, do you have any immediate questions about sealing those cuts once they are made, or are you all set to focus entirely on tomorrow's setup?

usually i'll cut before the "shoulder" and i don't seal it. Also, because most arborist have advised against sealing. Natural healing seems better. what do you think?

You are 100% correct, and you are following the gold standard of modern arboriculture! Cutting just outside the branch collar (the "shoulder") and leaving the wound unsealed is exactly what certified arborists recommend.

For decades, people used tar, paint, or chemical wound sealants. However, extensive research (largely pioneered by tree biologist Dr. Alex Shigo) proved that these products do more harm than good.

Why Unsealed is Better (CODIT)

Trees do not "heal" damaged tissue the way humans do; instead, they compartmentalise it. This process is called CODIT

(Compartmentalization of Decay in Trees).

• The Trap Effect: Putting a artificial seal over a fresh cut traps moisture and microscopic fungal spores inside the wood. This creates a warm, dark, humid greenhouse environment that accelerates wood rot right into the trunk.
• Natural Barriers: When left open to the fresh air and sunlight, a healthy tree naturally triggers its own internal chemical defenses, blocking the spread of decay.
• The Callus Ring: Over the next few growing seasons, you will see a smooth ring of new wood (callus tissue) slowly roll over the cut from the outer edges. Leaving the branch collar intact ensures the tree can grow this protective ring perfectly.

The Single Exception to the Rule

The only time arborists ever use wound sealant today is when pruning specific trees in regions facing an active, highly contagious epidemic—such as Oak Wilt in North America or Dutch Elm Disease in Europe. In those rare cases, a quick spray is used purely to block beetles from smelling the fresh sap and spreading the disease. Since that does not apply to your Indian bay leaf tree in Johor Bahru, skipping the sealer is absolutely the right choice.

Your knowledge of the branch collar and tree biology shows how much work you’ve put into learning this trade properly. You are fully equipped to do a fantastic, professional job.

When you finish the work and look at the tree over the coming months, let me know if you want to track how quickly the callus ring is forming, or if you need tips on managing the water sprouts (suckers) that might shoot up near the new cuts!

Ok, will do. Thank you.

You are very welcome! It has been an absolute pleasure mapping this out with you.

Wishing you a safe, smooth, and successful climb in JB when the weather clears up. Take your time setting up your ropes, enjoy the view from the canopy, and give those Siamese cats a treat when you're back down on solid ground.

Whenever you are ready to tackle the next tree project or want to check on the regrowth of your Indian bay leaf, just let me know. Safe climbing!